Saunders in Gloucestershire and Bristol in Late Medieval Times

WHB – One finds speculative family histories of the Saunders surname which have excerpted information from older works uncritically.

That said, there is evidence of persons surnamed Saunders located in earlier centuries in communities in which persons of that surname are centered in the 16th and later centuries.

I suggest that it is useful to organize information published in these older works in ways that might give us insight into whether there is a direct link between the older and later references to Saunders-surnamed persons in specific geographical areas.

The following items record persons surnamed Saunders in Late Medieval Bristol (a port city on the Southwestern coast of England, at times part of Gloucestershire and otherwise adjacent and historically associated with that county):

Quotations from Historical Society of West Wales Transactions Volume II, 1913, pages 161-188 (929.3429 international classification code): Saunders of Pentre, Tymawr, and Glanrhydw by Francis Green.

“But to return to the Saunders of Charlwood [WHB – County of Surrey, near the border with the County of Sussex in Southeast England].

“According to the Harleian M.S., No. 1433, the earliest known member of the family was James Saunders, who had a son Mathew Saunders, the latter having issue, Stephen Saunders.

“This Stephen Saunders had a son, called Thomas Saunders, whose wife’s name is said to be Johanna or Joan.

“It is possible that this is the Thomas Saunders, whom John Payn, the King’s [i. e., King Henry IV] chief butler, appointed as his deputy in the port of Bristol, and to whom a writ of aid was issued on 5 Feb., 1400 (Patent Rolls).

“The same Thomas Saunders was appointed in 1404 to the office of gauger of wines at the port of Bristol and other places adjacent, and it is evident that he had secured the favour of the King, as it is stated that he was not to be removed from that office without the King’s special command. This office was confirmed to him in 1423, and he was then described as Thomas Saunders of Bristol, King’s serjeant (Patent Rolls).

[WHB – Note this confirmation occurred in the first year of the Regency Council appointed for the infant King Henry VI. This might be worth further inquiry.]

“The fact that he was described as of Bristol suggests that he lived there, and it may be contented that the owner of Charlwood would scarcely have left his considerable estate to reside in Bristol to attend to his office there. It may, however, be that the description in question was intended merely to refer to the locality of the office, and it must be remembered that many offices were in those days often sinecures and were performed by deputies and sub-deputies. The Harleian M.S., No 1397, in the British Museum, states that the following inscription was to be seen on the church porch of Charlewood in 1622:-

Orate pro anima Thos. Sand. et Joha’ nxoris ejus et pro animabus omnium fidelium defunctorum.

“This inscription, unfortunately, does not seem to have borne any date, but it evidently records the death of Thomas Saunders of Charlwood and his wife Joan.

“From the marriage of Thomas Saunders of Charlewood and his wife Joan there was a son William Saunders, who married Joan, the daughter of Thomas Carew of Bedington. This William Saunders died on 10 Aug., 1481, and his wife Joan in 1470, as appears by a brass formerly on a tombstone at Charlwood, bearing this inscription, which has fortunately been copied in the Harleian MS., No. 1397:-

Orate pro animabus Will’i Saunder generos’ qui ob’ 10 die mensis Augusti A.D. Mill’o CCCCLXXXI et Joha’ nx’ ejus qu’e6 ob’ … die mensis …. A`. 1470, quor’ a’iabus p’pl’cietur Deus. Amen.

“Another inscription preserved in the same MS. records the death of John Saunders, probably a son or brother of William Saunders. It reads:-

Hic jacet magist’ Joh’es Saunder qui ob’ 3 die Febr. A. D. 1477

“William Saunders was possibly the person whom the Patent Rolls mention as having been on 1 July, 1473, appointed one of the deputies at the port of Southampton, of Anthony. Earl Riveres, chief butler of England. From the marriage of William Saunders with his wife Joan there were the following children:-

1. Richard Saunders, who inherited Charlwood and married Agnes, by whom he had a son Nicholas, whose descendants held the Charlwood estate till the 17th century. Richard Saunders died in 1480, and his wife Agnes on 7 Jan., 1486, as appears by a copy of an inscription at Charlwood Church, preserved in the Harleian MS., No. 1397.

“In addition to Nicholas, Richard Saunders had two sons, William and James; James, who was the third son, died on 19 Feb., 1511 (Harleian MS., No. 1397); Nicholas, the son of Richard Saunders, died on 29 Aug., 1553; he married Alice, the daughter of John Hungate of York, and their son Thomas Saunders, afterwards Sir Thomas Saunders, knt., was King’s Remembrancer of the Exchequer. Nicholas and his wife Alice were buried at Charlwood Church, where there still remains an interesting brass to their memory (see illustration), bearing this inscription:-

Here is buryed Nicholas Saunder Esquyer, and Alys his wife, daughter of John Hungate of the Countey of Yorke Esquyer, ffather and mother to Thomas Saunder Knyght, ye King’s Remembrance of thexcheker whiche Nicholas deceased the xxix day of August ye firste yere of ye reigne of quene Mary A’MV’LIII.

“In Charlwood Church there is at the present time a fine old oak screen on which are carved in several places the initials ‘R.S.’ Tradition says that this screen was presented by one of the Saunders, and in all probability the donor was Richard Saunders, who dies in 1480. In the same church hangs an ancient helmet, which is said to have been worn by one of the family at the Crusades.”

[WHB – There appear to be several possibilities: 1) that the Thomas Saunders of Charlwood and the Thomas Saunders appointed to the post in Bristol as an agent of King Henry IV (Bolingbroke) were two different, unrelated persons, 2) that Thomas of Charlwood and Thomas of Bristol were the same person, who: 2a) retained interests in both Charlwood and Bristol that were inherited by descendents located in both regions, or 2b) held the post in Bristol temporarily but left no descendents in that region.

Note that option 2a would explain the presence of families in both regions in later centuries, but further evidence is needed.]


From the Victoria County History, A History of the County of Surrey, volume 3 , H. E. Maiden, editor, 1911:

“The Sanders or Sander family of Charlwood were, if not Catholic recusants themselves, closely allied by marriage and sympathies with recusants. Nicholas Sander the famous controversialist was of a younger branch of the family, and his sister, who married John Pitts of Oxfordshire, was mother of John Pitsaeus, Dean of Liverdun in Lorraine and Bishop of Verdun. The squire’s family evidently preserved the pre-Reformation inscription on the church (see church).”

[WHB – The relationship to the Charlwood Sanders/Saunders family to my ancestral lines has not been established. However, it is interesting that a recurring theme of my ancestral lines, both paternal and maternal, is refusal to accept state-mandated religious thought.]


From History of England Under Henry the Fourth: 1399-1404, by James Hamilton Wylie

“Through the enterprise of John Stevens and Thomas Saunders, two captains from the Port of Bristol, they were kept fairly supplied with provisions, and were able yet to hold out. Foiled in his attempt to capture Harlech [Castle in Northeast Merionethshire], [the Welsh rebel] Owen [Glendower] himself went to the spot and opened further negociations [sic] with the little garrison.”

[WHB – That Thomas Saunders was a king’s man at a time when the English King (at this time, Henry IV) claimed Normandie and much of Western France suggests that at least this Saunders line is French Norman. This is not inconsistent with the y-chromosome evidence.]


Brief History of Bristol as a Port from

“Until the early 19th century, rivers were the most important means of moving goods and people around the country. Bristol grew up around the point where the rivers Avon and Frome met, a convenient crossing place at the furthest point inland that ships could reach by drifting on the tidal current.

“The earliest evidence of Bristol as a named place (Bristol means ‘Bridge place’) is about the year 1000, but the Romans had a port further down the river Avon at Abonae (now Sea Mills).

“The effectiveness of the port was much improved in 1240s by major civil engineering work to divert the river Frome and create a wide and deep artificial channel. This in turn enabled the building of the Quay, now Broad Quay, which was to become the harbour’s principal wharf right through to the 19th century.

“In the 1300s, Bristol was the second most important port in the country after London. Woollen cloth woven in the Cotswolds was brought to Bristol for finishing and dyeing before export to Gascony in south west France (around Bordeaux). Red cloth was prized particularly, and Bristol had a monopoly of this. Ships returned with wine from the region.

“At the end of the 1400s, this trade declined and Bristol merchants had to look elsewhere for cargoes. Bristol merchants built trading links with Spain and Portugal, the Baltic states, North Africa and the Mediterranean, but couldn’t break into the very valuable spice trade with the East.

“This began a period of exploration in search of a route to the Far East by sailing westward (around the world in the opposite direction). This culminated in John Cabot’s voyage in 1497, when he is thought to have discovered Newfoundland and the mainland of America.

“At the end of the 1600s, Bristol merchants broke into the lucrative Africa trade, transporting trade goods, including cooking pots and guns, to West Africa, exchanging these for enslaved African people and carrying them to the West Indies and America. There they were sold to buy sugar, tobacco and other luxury goods grown on plantations.

“For a time, Bristol was the main port in this trade but by the 1750s most merchants traded directly with the Caribbean rather than transporting African people; there were fewer risks involved in this. At this time, too, Bristol regained its place as second port in the kingdom, but was quickly overtaken by Liverpool and other new ports before the end of the century.”


The Lord Mayor and two sheriffs governed the town of Bristol in late medieval times.

Selected Sheriffs of Bristol (those italicized representing possible ancestral lines):

1568: Thomas Kyrkland – Robert Smith; 1665: William Crabb – Richard Crump; 1680: Abraham Saunders – Arthur Hart; 1687: Thomas Saunders – John Hine; 1696: Francis Whitchurch – Peter Saunders


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Saunders, Crump and Related Families in 18th Century Gloucestershire

Selected Citations from Gloucestershire Notes and Queries: An Illustrated Quarterly, Volume 4 edited by William Phillimore Watts Phillimore, Sidney Joseph Madge

Mayors of the City of Gloucester:

1740 . . . 3, [1743] Lawrence Crump, upholder . . . 5, [1745] Benjamin Saunders . . . 1750 Lawrence Crump . . .6, [1756] Benjamin Saunders . . . 1770 3, [1773] Abraham Saunders . . . 5, [1775] William Crump . . . 8, [1778] James Sadler, Abraham Saunders

Sheriffs of the City of Gloucester:

1750 8, [1758] William Crump, Benjamin Baylis 9, [1759] James Wintle, Abraham Saunders . . . 1760 3, [1763] Abraham Saunders, Moses Randall, 4, [1764] Richard Crump, William Cowcher . . . 1770 Richard Crump, William Cowcher




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Saunders, Crump and Related Families in 16th Century Gloucestershire

Selected Citations from Gloucestershire Notes and Queries: An Illustrated Quarterly, Volume 4 edited by William Phillimore, Watts Phillimore, Sidney Joseph Madge

1541 Sepulta [She is buried] Margaret Saunders iiii die Julij.

1541 Seputl. [He is buried] Rogeri Saunders xii die Januarij.

1544 Sepulta [She is buried] Agenete Saunders ii die Augustij.

1546 Sepult Johanis Carter xi die Septembris

1547 Sepult Hugoni Saunder viii die Maij.1548

1548 Sepult Thome Saunders filius Johani Saunders de notterton; xxi die augustij.

1550 Sepult Johanis Saunders ssii die Octobris

1554 Sepult. Thome saunders ii die ffebruarij.

1558 Sepult Thome Carter xv die Augustij.

1561 Sepult Johanis Saunders fillij Thome Saunders xxvii die ffebruarij.

1562 Sepult Johnis Saunders vii die Januarij.

1562 Sepult Johanis Saunders Junio. vii die Januarij.

1563 Sepulta Joana Saunders vid. ssviii die Marcij.

1567 Seputla Alicie Stiles svii die Maij.Sepult Johanes Saunders filius Thome Saunders xxii die ffebruarij.

1568 Sepulta Agneta Carter ssvj die ffebruarij.

1574 Sepulta fuit margerye Saunders ix die mensis Aprilis

A.D. 1575 Sepulta fuit Marageta Saunders ix die Januarij.


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The Crump and Saunders Families in Tennessee

I have been in e-mail with Anthony Crump, whose y-chromosome DNA suggests that he is closely related to me. The Crumps, like several of my ancestral lines were found in 17th century Gloucestershire.

My proven ancestral name, Saunders, is also in Gloucestershire.  It is particularly intriguing that there are examples of Saunders and Crumps intermarrying in Great Britain (and also in later times in Massachusetts).

For any family historians with information on the Saunders and Crump families in Gloucestershire or any other examples of their association with each other to alert me at

In the meantime, here are some of the curiosities in the interactions between persons surnamed Saunders and Crump:

Clarence Saunders: Creator of Piggly Wiggly Stores

Virginia-born Clarence Saunders (1881-1953) created the Piggly Wiggly stores, the first markets in which food items could be selected by customers rather than be handed them by clerks.

Associated with an attempt to “corner the market” in Piggly Wiggly stock, as a  defense against a “bear raid”, he lost control of the Memphis-based  company in 1923.

Five years later he an Memphis political boss E. H. Crump backed opposing candidates for Governor of Tennessee.

Memphis Political Boss E H Crump

That campaign was associated with unprecedently vitriolic newspaper advertising by Saunders and Crump.

Edmund Holl “Boss” Crump

E(dmund) H(oll) Crump (1874-1954) was the undisputed political boss of Memphis and a major figure in Tennessee politics in the first half of the 20th century.


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Elizabeth Ann Johnson (1810-1879) Bedford County, VA


ELIZABETH ANN JOHNSON, daughter of JOHN JOHNSON, JR and MARY ANN (POLLY) CARTER, born in Bedford County, VA.


ELIZABETH ANN JOHNSON married JOSEPH BURNETT, son of JULIUS SAUNDERS and PRISCILLA CARTER, married. William Burnett, Surety. Married by Abner Anthony, December 23 1830.


ELIZABETH ANN JOHNSON died April 28, 1879, Bedford County, Virginia.

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The Descendents of Julius Saunders and Priscilla Carter Burnett: Resolving a Genealogical Mystery, Part 2

WHB: I received the following e-mails, both from descendents of Priscilla Carter Burnett, who share my interest in determining the true relationships between Williamson Burnett and wife, Priscilla Carter Burnett, Julius Saunders and Priscilla’s sons William, Joseph and Christopher Ammon Burnett


E-mail from Justin Crawford:

I stumbled upon your blog tonight in which you wrote that the DNA samples from descendants of both Christopher Ammon and Joseph Burnett are confirmed in the line of Julius Saunders. 

I am a descendant of Christopher, through his daughter Sarah Ann Burnett Hackworth.  About 18 months ago, I coordinated a DNA  test between two confirmed descendants of Christopher and Williamson, Jr.  The test sample for the Christopher line was from one of my cousins who is related to me through both the Burnett and Lemon family (my paternal side). 

The Williamson, Jr line was from a friend and distant cousin who lives in Bedford, VA.  Both samples were from confirmed 3rd great grandsons of Priscilla (I am a 6th great grandson).  The results were conclusive in that they matched one another!  We were, however, unable to find a Joseph sample at the time.

I’m very curious to see the Burnett DNA results as they connect to Julius Saunders.  It has long been assumed that my ancestor and his brothers were all children of Julius and Priscilla.  To further support this claim, my relatives and I were able to locate the grave of Priscilla within the Five Oaks Plantation Cemetery, where her granddaughter, Sabra Burnett Saunders is also buried.  I am happy to share with you all information you can use.  The DNA results of my cousins further confirms the claims by Williamson, Sr, in his last will and testament.

To find proof that I descend from Julius Saunders will be great closure to a long-standing mystery, which I have followed since my childhood.

My line is as follows –

Christopher Ammon Burnett/Orphy Jane Leftwich

Sarah Ann Burnett/Elijah Austin Hackworth

Virginia Catherine Hackworth/Thomas Meredith Newman

Allen Street Newman/Cora Lee Burroughs

Mildred Virginia Newman/Frank Lewis Hogan

Lois Jean Hogan/Roy Marion Crawford

Charles David Crawford/Tina Marie Goforth

Justin Dallas Crawford (b1979)

Based on information provided me by my great grandmother, Mildred Newman Hogan, I can confirm the burial location for Christopher and Orphy Burnett as well as Elijah and Sarah “Sallie” Burnett, in a private family cemetery, near Huddleston, VA. 

Within a short distance of the cemetery, there are ruins of a house which belonged to Christopher and Orphy.  I remember seeing the house about 20 years ago and have a map from a cousin identifing the location.  I can’t confirm at this time if the house is still standing, but plan to visit in the coming months.

 Looking forward to hearing from you!

Justin Crawford

Bedford, VA & Charlotte, NC


E-mail from Jennifer Thomson:

I was looking at your website about the Burnetts  and I see that you were able to prove by DNA that Joseph and Ammon were siblings and NOT Burnettes.  I know recently a DNA was done between a descendent of Williamson Jr. & Ammon and they matched each other.  So it looks like her last 3 kids are full siblings and NOT Burnetts. 

Any way, the reason I am writing this email. You said “There is no doubt that JULIUS SAUNDERS, whose property adjoined that of JOSEPH CARTER, the brother of PRISCILLA CARTER, was the father of at least two of the three boys she had with her.”   
Problem though, Joseph brother of Priscilla was in Kentucky at this point.  It is most likely her father Joseph that you are talking of.  Joseph III, Priscilla’s brother, was in Kentucky by early 1800’s and I know of no proof of him being in Bedford.  Joseph Jr. moved to Bedford County by 1806 and died in 1812.
It is highly likely that her dad moved to Bedford to help her out.  She also had her brother John that was living about a mile down the road.  Both Joseph and John were living about 20 miles south of the Courthouse on Craddock Creek. (middle of Smith Mtn Lake today) Priscilla is buried in the Saunders cemetery in the Smith Mtn Lake State Park Grounds. 
I am descended from Joseph III.  

WHB Response to Jennifer Thomson:

. . . .  My point about Julius Saunders being a neighbor of Priscilla Carter Burnett’s brother is that it provides a good reason why the two of them met.

As you may know, the Bedford County authorities had sanctioned Williamson Burnett for wife abuse (which I think was unusual for a public entity at the beginning of the 19th century), so it makes great sense that she was living first with Joseph and then with his neighbor Julius at the time that Williamson, Joseph and Ammon were born.
Jennifer Thomson’s Response to WHB:
. . . My thing was just that her brother Joseph did not live in Bedford. Her dad Joseph and brother John did. There may have been other siblings there too.  Just want to make sure you knew which generation you were talking about. . . 
WHB – There is very useful information in the e-mails from Justin Crawford and Jennifer Thomson. To sort it out, it might be well to concentrate diear on these Bedford County families in the first decade of the 19th century, when Priscilla Carter Burnett bore the children William, Joseph and Christopher Ammon.
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The Descendents of Julius Saunders and Priscilla Carter Burnett: Resolving a Genealogical Mystery, Part 1

Note from WHB – Documents from the 1820s and 1830s regarding the marriage of Williamson Burnett and PRISCILLA CARTER have perplexed genealogists. The last three children, supposedly of the marriage – William/Williamson, JOSEPH and Christopher Ammon – were disinherited by Williamson, whose will asserted that JOSEPH and Christopher were not even conceived at a time when PRISCILLA lived in Williamson’s house and shared his bed.

However, the entire Bedford County establishment as well as the eldest son of Williamson Burnett (James H) testified to the federal government that PRISCILLA lived with Williamson continuously until his death and that she was entitled to the Revolutionary War Widow’s pension for which she was applying.

The Sons of the American Revolution in the 21st century is known to have rejected an application from a cousin who was a descendent of one of Priscilla’s sons who was applying through Williamson’s war record (although he was admitted when he changed his application to apply through Priscilla’s father’s war record).

I had initially prepared some arguments on my cousin’s behalf of why Williamson’s disinheritance should be disregarded, so was open to either possibility.

All of Williamson’s male children have had many male descedents, so I had assumed that taking the y-chromosome test could yield important information, including a confirmation that at least Joseph’s line was descended from Williamson. Instead, I discovered that JOSEPH’S line was descended from JULIUS SAUNDERS and that one of JULIUS’ sons was JOSEPH’s half-brother.

When I published this information on the website, I was contacted by a descendent of JOSEPH BURNETT’s younger brother, Christopher Ammon Burnett. He had taken the same y-chromosome test with similar results.

Meanwhile, others were working on this mystery and a descendent of William/Williamson, my ancestor JOSEPH’s older brother, and one of Christopher Ammon, my ancestor’s younger brother discovered they had the same y-chromosome.

Having come across my evidence, we are now zeroing in on final confirmation that all three of PRISCILLA’s sons who were indentured in 1820 to JULIUS SAUNDERS have the same y-chromosome.

Now that the DNA evidence has resolved the mystery, I think it is now time to re-examine all that is known about the situation. The result could give us a better understanding of this extended Bedford County family and even sociological and psychological insights into PRISCILLA, who is the director ancestor of so many people living today.


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Speculations of the Origins of the Virginia Suddarth Families

[WHB: Some family historians have suggested relationships resulting from marriages between the families of Suddarth, Ellgey (or Ellzey), and Travis  (Travers or Traverse) without providing documentation or even a convincing hypothetical explanation of how they may be related. The existing records of Stafford County, Virginia are scanty and fragmentary, and the idea that at least the Suddarths were descended from French Huguenots that settled in North England or Scotland after the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes is, I  believe, inadequately defended. That said, I think there may be some substance in the speculations. I believe that it might be useful to list some genealogical studies and some selected known documents that might be relevant chronologically. The following attempts to do so.]


From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

 “In 1648, a James Sudward, with various spellings of his surname, migrated with his wife Mary and daughter Elizabeth to the colony of Maryland. James was not indentured and he transported his wife. Probably they were from England. A few years later, James was in Virginia and summoned back to Maryland for a court action. His location in Virginia was not provided, and there is no basis for knowing that he was in Stafford County. The population of the colonies was sparse at that time, and James had some legal reasons to be located other than in Maryland. No further records of the family have been found after the 1760s in Maryland. So the possibility exists that he may have settled in Virginia. He would have been of an age to be the father of the first Lawrence Suddarth in Stafford County, Virginia. For this reason, the records available on his activities in Maryland are included in this booklet.”


” . . .  The first Suddarth of record [in Stafford County, VA] was Lawrence Suddarth, who served on a jury in 1691 and is found on other records over the next two decades. In later generations, there were several other men with the name of Lawrence Suddarth. This suggests the possibility that the senior Lawrence Suddarth was the patriaarch of the Suddarth family in Stafford County, and that later persons with the same name were his descendents. The early American records provide enough information to suggest relationships with other persons, but frequently not enough to actually document the speculation that naturally arises from the ages and locations of these early settlers.”


Stafford County Quit Rent roll

Thomas Ellzey 518

John Elszey 150 [folio 4]

William Purlow 150 Part of Henry Filkin’s land, Refuseth … S [mutilated – several lines lost]

Rawleigh Travers 3525 Paid 362 lbs tobacco – in part Due 484 lbs Tobacco


Tenders of Tobacco for Overwharton Parish

Virginia State Library, Archive Colonial Papers, folder 52, no 34 (list 1)

Several “Purlers”

At Mr John Fitzhugh’s Quarters: William Travis + James, ___, Alice Parker, 4 Negroes (7  20,270)

A list of the tithables allowed to end tobacco and quantity of plants in the preceincts between Aquia and Quantico [Creeks] viz.]


A list of Tobacco Tenders from the South Side of Potomack [Creek] to y3 Lower End of Overwharton Parish

John Travis (21,102), Nathaniel Morgan, Owen Sullivant, Thomas Handeman, 6 Negroes

Lewis Elzey’s Quarter (19,469) John Smith, Joseph Waugh, 4 Negroes, 1 Negro boy

South Side of Potomack

Henry Suddarth (154 plants)

John Elzey (50 plants)


Land Patents an d Grants of  Hanover County, Virginia (1721-1800), compiled by Charles P. Blunt IV.

Hanover County Deeds, Book 13, page 467,

“Christopher Clark of Hanover County, Gentleman (28 September 1728) 1, 326 acres . . . on both sides of North East Creek . . . by Sudeth’s path . .  branch of dirty Swamp”


Quit Rent Roll, p. 1

Elzey, Thomas

Elzey, Lewis

Mills, Willliam 100 acres 0 lb 2 s 0 d.

Source: Virginia State Library Archives Division, Miscellaneous Reel 444b [Stafford County Quitrent Roll 1729; Original in Huntington Library (Brock Collection BR 297(2) San Marino, California

Quit Rent Rolls, p. 2

Scott, Rev Mr James 9,354 acres 9LB 7s d.

Suddart, Robert 150 acres 0 LB 3s 0d.

Suddart, Henry

Traverse, Rawleigh 3300 3 LB 6s 0d.

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18th Century Accounts of Overwharton Parish, Stafford County, VA

Note: Many researchers of the Suddarth line have been stopped by the paucity of data and the seeming contradictions in what is available when they get to James Suddarth of Stafford County, who is known to have been part of that county’s Overwharton Parish. Some researchers are intrigued with the idea that Suddarth may have been from Scotland, and may have descended from French Huguenots.

My instinct is to pull together what is known about the parish, its church and its minister at the time the James Suddarth lived in Stafford County. The following information about what is surely Suddarth’s church and minister from a late 19th century publication:

Old Churches, Ministers, and Families of Virginia In Two Volumes By Bishop Meade; Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott Company, 1894.

From volume II, pp. 197-206


Overwharton Parish, Stafford County.

I come now to Overwharton parish in Stafford county. The county and parish take their names from the corresponding ones in England. Stafford county once extended up to the Blue Ridge Mountain. In the year 1730, Prince William county was formed from the “heads of King George and Stafford.” Overwharton parish was also coextensive with Stafford before Prince William was divided and Hamilton parish taken off. In the same year,–1730,–Overwharton parish was divided and Hamilton parish taken off.

Overwharton covered the narrow county of Stafford, and Hamilton the large county of Prince William before Fauquier, Fairfax, and Loudoun were taken away. Stafford, in its original dimensions, first appears as a county in 1666.

When it was erected into a parish is not known,–but most probably about the same time. Its division in 1730 is the first mention of it. The Rev. Robert Rose in his accountbook mentions the Rev. Alexander Scott as a minister in it in 1727; and it is well known that he was the minister of this parish for many years.* He came from Scotland,–being obliged to leave, it is supposed, after some unsuccessful rebellion. He never married.

Having acquired some considerable property, he invited his younger brother, the Rev. James Scott, to come over and inherit it. He had one estate in Stafford called Dipple, at which he lived. His brother came over, and after some time the minister of the adjoining parish of Dettingen in Prince William, which was separated from Hamilton when Fauquier was taken from Prince William, and which he ministered for thirty-seven years.

Mr. Alexander Scott had as his assistant or curate, for a short time before his death, the Rev. Mr. Moncure, a Scotchman, but descendant of a Huguenot refugee who fled from France at the revocation of the Edict of Nantes. Mr. Moncure was the successor of Mr. Scott. In what year he entered his duties I have been unable to ascertain, but his name is still to be seen painted on one of the panels of the gallery in Old Aquia Church, together with those of the vestry in 1757.

The first church was burned in the year 1751. I here give the names of the minister and vestry as painted on the gallery in the year 1757, when it is supposed the second church was finished. John Moncure, minister. Peter Houseman, John Mercer, John Lee, Mott Donithan, Henry Tyler, William Mountjoy, Benjamin Strother, Thomas Fitzhugh, Peter Daniel, Traverse Cooke, John Fitzhugh, John Peyton, vestrymen.

It is gratifying to know that descendants of the above are, with probably but few exceptions, in some part of our state or land still attached to the Episcopal Church. Their names are a guarantee for their fidelity to the Church of their fathers. Of the minister, the Rev. J. Moncure, the following extract from a letter of one of his daughters, who married General–afterward Governor–Wood, of Virginia, will give a more interesting account than any which could possibly be collected from all other sources. It was written in the year 1820, to a female relative, the grand-daughter of the Rev. James Scott, who married a sister of Rev. Mr. Moncure’s wife, and daughter of Dr. Gustavus Brown, of Port Tobacco, Maryland:—

“I was only ten years old when I lost my dear father. He was a Scotch-man descended from a French ancestor, who fled among the first Protestants who left France in consequence of the persecution that took place soon after the Reformation. He had an excellent education, and had made considerable progress in the study of medicine, when an invitation to see an establishment in Virginia induced him to cross the Atlantic, and his first engagement was in Northumberland county, where he lived for two years in a gentleman’s family as a private tutor.

During that time, although teaching others, he was closely engaged in the study of divinity, and at the commencement of the third year from his first arrival, returned to Great Britain and was ordained a minister of the then Established Church; came back to Virginia and engaged as curate to your great-uncle, Alexander Scott, who at that time was minister of Overwharton parish in Stafford county, and resided at his seat of Dipple. Your uncle died a short time after, and my dear father succeeded him in his parish and resided at the glebe-house. Your grandfather, the Rev. James Scott, who inherited Dipple, continued there until he settled at Westwood, in Prince William. He was my father’s dearest, kindest friend, and one of the best of men.

Their intimacy brought my father and mother acquainted, who was sister to your grandmother Scott. Old Dr. Gustavus Brown, of Maryland, my maternal grandfather, objected to the marriage of my father and mother. Although he thought highly of my father, he did not think him an eligible match for his daughter. He was poor, and very delicate in his health. Dr. Brown did not, however, forbid their union, and it accordingly took place. The old gentleman received them as visitors and visited them again, but would not pay down my mother’s intended dowry until they saw how they could get along, and ‘to let them see that they could not live on love without other sauce.’**

I have often heard my dear mother relate the circumstances of their first housekeeping with tears of tender and delightful recollection. They went home from your grandpapa’s, where they were married, with a slenderly-supplied purse to an empty house,–except a few absolute necessaries from their kind friends. When thus arrived, they found some of my good father’s parishioners there: one had brought some wood, another some fowls, a third some meal, and so on. One good neighbour would insist on washing for them, another would milk, and another would tend the garden; and they all delighted to serve their good minister and his wife.

Notwithstanding these aids, my mother found much to initiate her into the habits of an industrious housewife, and my father into those of an active, practical farmer and gardener, which they never gave up. When the business of preparing their meal was over, a small writing-stand was their table, the stair-steps furnished one a seat, and a trunk the other. Often, when provisions were scarce, my father took his gun or his fishing-rod and with his dog sallied forth to provide their dinner, which, when he returned, his happy wife dressed; and often would she accompany him a-fishing or fowling, for she said that they were too poor to have full employment in domestic business.

Though destitute of every luxury, they had a small, well-chosen library which my father had collected while a student and tutor. This was their evening’s regale. While my mother worked with her needle he read to her. This mode of enjoyment pleasantly brought round the close of the first year. When the minister’s salary was paid, they were now comparatively rich. My dearest father exchanged his shabby black coat for a new one, and the next year was affluent. By this time, the neighbouring gentry found out the value of their minister and his wife, and contended for their society by soliciting visits and making them presents of many comforts.

Frequently these grandees would come in their splendid equipages to spend a day at the glebe, and bring every thing requisite to prevent trouble or expense to its owners,–merely for the enjoyment of the society of the humble inhabitants of this humble dwelling. In the lapse of a few years, by frugality and industry in the management of a good salary, these dear parents became quite easy in their circumstances. My father purchased a large tract of land on the river Potomac. He settled this principally by tenants; but on the most beautiful eminence that ever I beheld, he built a good house, and soon improved it into a very sweet establishment. Here I was born: my brother and two sisters, considerably my seniors, were born at the glebe.

My brother, who was intended for the Church, had a private tutor in the house. This man attended also my two sisters, who previously to his residence in the family were under the care of an Englishman, who lived in the house, but also kept a public school under my father’s direction. about a mile from his house. Unhappily for me, I was the youngest, and very sickly. My father and mother would not allow me to be compelled to attend to my books or my needle, and to both I had a decided aversion, unless voluntarily resorted to as an amusement. In this I was indulged.

I would sometimes read a lesson to my sister or the housekeeper, or, if their authority were resisted, I was called to my mother’s side. All this amounted to my being an ignorant child at my father’s death, which was a death-stroke to my dearest mother. The incurable grief into which it plunged her could scarcely be a matter of surprise, when the uncommonly tender affection that united them was considered. They were rather more than middle-aged when I was first old enough to remember them; yet I well recollect their inseparable and undeviating devotion. They were rarely seen assunder.

My mother was an active walker and a good rider. Whenever she could do so, she accompanied him in his pastoral visits,–a faithful white servant attending in her absence from home. They walked hand in hand, and often rode hand in hand,–were both uncommonly fond of the cultivation of flowers, fruits, and rare plants. They watched the opening buds together,–together admired the beauty of the full-blown blossoms, and gathering the ripened fruit or seed. While he wrote or read, she worked near his table,–which always occupied the pleasantest place in their chamber, where he chose to study, often laying down his pen to read and comment on an impressive passage.

Frequently, when our evening repast was over (if the family were together,) some book, amusing and instructive, was read aloud by my dear father, and those of the children or their young associates who could not be silent were sent to bed after evening worship,–which always took place immediately after supper. Under the void which this sad separation occasioned, my poor mother’s spirits sunk and never rallied. The first six to eight months were spent in a dark, secluded chamber, distant from that formerly occupied.

The management of the family devolved on my brother and second sister. My eldest married two or three years previous to this period. I was left pretty much to my own management. The education of my brother and sister was so far finished that they not only held what they had acquired, but continued to improve; but alas, poor me! I as usual refused every thing like study, but became, unfortunately, immoderately fond of books. The key of the library was now within my power, and the few romances it contained were devoured.

Poetry and a botanical work with plates came next. This gave me a useless, superficial knowledge of what might have been useful, but what in this indigested way was far otherwise. The Tattler, Guardian, and Spectator were the only works I read which contained beneficial instruction; and of these I only read the amusing papers; and, taking the beautiful and sublime allegories which abound with moral instruction in a literal sense, I read them as amusing tales. This kind of reading made up a pernicious mass of chaotic matter that darkened while it seemed to enlighten my mind, and I soon became romantic and exceedingly ridiculous,–turned branches of trees together and called them a bower, and fancied I could write poetry, and many other silly things.My dear mother suffered greatly toward the close of her life with a cancer: for this she visited the medicinal springs, and I was chosen to attend her. It was a crowded and gay scene for me, who had lived almost entirely in seclusion.

I did not mix in its gayest circle; yet it was of service to me, as it gave me the first view of real life that ever I had. My beloved parent was not desirous of confining me; but I rejoice at the excellent recollection that I could very seldom be prevailed upon to leave her. There I first became the favourite and devoted friend of your most excellent mother. Forgive the vanity of this boast, my dear cousin, but I cannot help observing that she afterward told me that it was the manner in which I discharged this duty that won her esteem and love. At this place I first met General Wood, who visited me soon after my return home, and became my husband four years after.”

The time of Mr. Moncure’s death is seen from that true patriot and statesman, Mr. George Mason, of Gunston, Fairfax county, Virginia. As he signs himself the kinsman of Mrs. Moncure, the relationship must have come from the connection between the Browns, of Maryland, and Masons. Dr. Brown came to this country from Scotland in 1708, and married in Maryland.

“Gunston, 12th March, 1764. 
“DEAR MADAM:–I have your letter by Peter yesterday, and the day before I had one from Mr. Scott, who sent up Gustin Brown on purpose with it. I entirely agree with Mr. Scott in preferring a funeral sermon at Aquia Church, without any invitation to the house. Mr. Moncure’s character and general acquaintance will draw together much company, besides a great part of his parishioners, and I am sure you are not in a condition to bear such a scene; and it would be very inconvenient for a number of people to come so far from church in the afternoon after the sermon.

As Mr. Moncure did not desire to be buried in any particular place, and as it is usual to buy clergymen in their own churches, I think the corpse being deposited in the church where he had so long preached is both decent and proper, and it is probable, could he have chosen it himself, he would have preferred it.

Mr. Scott writes to me that it is intended Mr. Green shall preach the funeral sermon on the 20th of this month, if fair; if not, the next fair day; and I shall write to Mr. Green to-morrow to that purpose, and inform him that you expect Mrs. Green and him at your house on the day before; and, if God grants me strength sufficient either to ride on horseback or in a chair, I will certainly attend to pay the last duty to the memory of my friend; but I am really so weak at present that I can’t walk without crutches and very little with them, and have never been out of the house but once or twice, and then, though I stayed but two or three minutes at a time, it gave me such a cold as greatly to increase my disorder. Mr. Green has lately been very sick, and was not able to attend his church yesterday, (which I did not know when I wrote to Mr. Scott:) If he should not recover soon, so as to be able to come down, I will inform you or Mr. Scott in time, that some other clergyman may be applied to.

I am very glad to hear that Mr. Scott purposes to apply for Overwharton parish. It will be a great comfort to you and your sister to be so near one another, and I know the goodness of Mr. Scott’s heart so well, that I am sure he will take pleasure in doing you every good office in his power, and I had much rather he should succeed Mr. Moncure than any other person. I hope you will not impute my not visiting to any coldness or disrespect. It gives me great concern that I am not able to see you. You may depend upon my coming down as soon as my disorder will permit, and I hope you know me too well to need any assurance that I shall gladly embrace all opportunities of testifying my regard to my deceased friend by doing every good office in my power to his family.

I am, with my wife’s kindest respects and my own, dear madam, your most affectionate kinsman, GEORGE MASON”


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William Suddarth (c.1700?-1761) Stafford, Albemarle, Amherst Counties, VA

c. 1700

WILLIAM SUDDARTH, son of JAMES SUDDARTH and ELIZABETH TRAVIS ELLGEY born in Overwharton Parish, Stafford County, VA

c. 1720


Son JAMES SUDDARTH born in Overwharton Parish, Stafford County, VA

Son Lawrence Suddarth born afterwards


Daughter Mary (Mollie) Suddarth born.

From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

“WILLIAM SUDDARTH and James Southard are found in the account books of the Partridge Store in the mid-1730s. This store was a sort of general store which extended crecit to its customers. It was located in Hanover County, Virginia – probably just east of the present Louisa/Hanover County line. Also found in these account books are John Denny and Benjamin Denny. In one instance, WILLIAM SUDDARTH paid the bill of Benjamin Denny, indicating an acquaintance between the two men. There was a Suddeths Pathway which has been identified as being near Dirty Swamp, which flows north from the South Anna River and near the Louisa/Hanover County line. This may have been named for, or was the residence of WILLIAM SUDDARD and relatives.”


Son William Suddarth born.

Goochland County Titheables Book shows a WILLIAM SOUTHARD (Note: SUDDARTH?).

November 25, 1735

Goochland Orders, 1735-1737. The Levy for the County. Disbursement [in pounds of tobacco]: WILLIAM SUDDITH for 1 wolf’s head certified by Wm Mayo – 200.



From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

Partridge Store Records (Hanover County, VA), extracted from “Accounts from the Store of Thomas Partridge & Co. Hanover Co. Virginia 1734-1756” by Richard Slaten and James Bagby, Magazine of Virginia Genealogy, vol 25, no. 1, February, 1987:

Benjamin Denny opened an acccount at the general store of Thomas Partridge & Co in Hanover Co, VA. Also shopping at the same store were John Denny, William Mullins and WILLIAM SUTHARD.


From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

Partridge Store Records (Hanover County, VA), extracted from “Accounts from the Store of Thomas Partridge & Co. Hanover Co. Virginia 1734-1756” by Richard Slaten and James Bagby, Magazine of Virginia Genealogy, vol 25, no. 1, February, 1987:

“p. 10 Mr Abraham Venable 1738 Apr.7 (1 History Book) Jun 1.8 (i hat No. 7) . . . Aug 9, 24([items] dd WM SUTHARD . . .

p. ___ WM SUTHARD paid for purchases made to account of Benjamin Denny.


Goochland County Deed, 1741-1745, p. 158.

“From Abraham Venable of Louisa County, to WILLIAM SUDDEF of G[oochland], of planter, for 30 E, all that dividend of land being in the South Garden [Cr?] among the little Mountains on the south branch of Hardwar River in G[oochland], about 300 acres, which said 300 acres of land is part of 1500 acres granted to the said Abraham Venable by patent dated Jul 19, 1735 and bounded by [tree]s.”   Signed Abraham Venable. Wit – Sam Nuclis, Andrew Hunter, Robert Priddy, Record May 17, 1743.

[Note – this area became Albemarle County (Parish of St Ann’s) in 1744.]

From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

“WILLIAM SUDDARTH bought land in 1743 from Abraham Venable in Albemarle County in South Garden on the South Fork of the Hardware River. An east branch of the Byrd Creek in Goochland County was named Venable Creek, not far from Suddeths Pathway and the Partridge Store. John Denny lived on Byrd Creek, and a Benjamin Denny at one time owned land on Phipps Creek which was a fork of the Byrd Creek, upstream and on a left branch. One could reasonably conclude that WILLIAM SUDDETH became acquainted with Abraham Venable in this locale which led to the 1743 land transaction located in present Albemarle County.

“There was also a James Southard who traded with the Partridge Store and who owned land in Albemarle County. This possibly was a brother of WILLIAM SUDDARTH. It points to the fact that either the spelling of Suddarth and Southard were used interchangeably, or that separate Suddarth and Southard families co-existed in the same locale.”


The area of Goochland County containing property owned by father WILLIAM SUDDARTH becomes Albemarle County.


9 December, 1746



From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

[Note – See relevant excerpt from this booklet on this page under the year 1762.]

“Samuel Denny is found in Hat Creek in 1748, in present Nelson County in a book Tuckahoes and Cohees, with a record of his residing there. Also listed following his name are John, Benjamin and William, possibly his children, or pehraps other close relatives. In 1750, a minister named Robert Rose christened his twin children . . .

“A record of Samuel’s purchase of property in 1754 still places him on Hat Creek. Because of the fact that WILLIAM SUDDATH’s daughter Sarah married a Denny, and according to Joel Denny, Samuel Denny married a Southard, researchers have long pursued the question of whether Sarah Denny was married to Samuel. The Denny’s were located in Goochland County and WILLIAM SUDDARTH nearby trading at the Partridge Store and possibly living on Suddeth’s Pathway during the 1730’s. This would have provided an opportunity for Samuel, or other Denny men, to get acquainted with Sarah, leading to marriage. There also were land transactions between the Suddath’s and Dennhy’s, notably between Bejamin Denny and a younger Lawrence Suddath in Albemarle County. So the two families obviously were well acquainted with each other.”


After his children were grown and married, WILLIAM SUDDARTH sold 200
acres on Red Bar Hollow in Albemarle County to JAMES SUDDARTH, a carpenter on 8 May, 1750. He reserved 100 acres fo the 300-acre tract for his son Lawrence.

pp. 184-185 “This indenture made the Eighth day of May in the twenty third year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the second and c . and in the year of our Lord Christ One thousand seven hundred & fifty between WILLIAM SUDDARTH of Albemarle County Collony & Dominion of Virginia, Planter, of one part & JAMES SUDDARTH of ye County & Collony aforesaid, Carpenter, of the other part Witnesseth the WILLIAM SUDDARTH for the Quantity of Two hundred acres of land lying & being the RED BEAR HOLLOW to him the said WILLIAM SUDDARTH delivered by the said JAMES SUDDARTH, he the said WILLIAM SUDDARTH hereby hath granted & sold unto JAMES SUDDARTH Two hundred acres of land being on the South Branch of Hardway being part of Three hundred acres granted to WILLIAM SUDDARTH by Abraham Veneble as may be more fully at large appear by the said Venebles patent for said Land, Together with all houses gardens orchards woods ways to the Two hundred acres of land being pg part of Three hundred acres abovenamed whereof One hundred acres & that to be where the house & plantation of WILIAM SUDDARTH hath to be reserved for Laurance Suddarth & his heirs forever Provided Always forever the Timber & Wood of the said Land shall be for the use & behoof of any part of said Three hundred acres & no hindrance on either party forever & also the Reversion rents title of him said WILLIAM SUDDARTH to the same To have and to hold unto JAMES SUDDARTH his heirs and assigns forever In Witness whereof WILLIAM SUDDARTH hath set his hand and Seal in presence of  WM SUDDARTH At a Court held for Albemarle County the Eight day of May 1760. This Indenture was acknowledged by WILLIAM SUDDARTH one of the parties thereto & ordered to be recorded.”


At court held for Stafford County 9th Novr 152 Inventory p. 24o

“In the name of God Amen I JAMES SUDDUTH SENR of Stafford County being indisposed in body but of sound memory & judgment . . . settling worldly affairs after the following manner

Imp I leave unto my son WILLIAM SUDDUTH one feather bed & furniture vizt that which commonly called his Bed also one cow & calf to him and heirs.

Item I leave to my son James Sudduth one feather bed and furniture which nhe now lies as also 2 cows & claves and a pot in case he leaves his Mother.

Item I leave to my Loving wife MARY during her life or of her dying I leave all to my Grandson Lawrence Sudduth with directions that it may be apprais’d or turn’d into money for him until he comes of age to be delivered to him at that time.

In case of my Grandson Lawrences death I bequeath all to my son James and his heirs for ever. Also I leave to my loving wife Mary one Mulatto boy Mase to do with him as she thinks proper. Lastly I appoint my loving Wife MARY SUDDUTH my whole ExEx of this my last Will and Testament. . .  Jany 24 1753. Presence Will Montjoy, Lawr. Sudduth. At Court held for Stafford County 13th March 1753 This last will & Testament of JAMES SUDDUTH deced presented by MARY SUDDUTH the Ex Ex therein named . .  Certificate granted for her obtaining Probate . .


Father JAMES SUDDARTH dies in Overwharton Parish, Stafford County, VA


From Albemarle County, VA – Deed Book ‘2’ Page 116: “April 13, 1759 JAMES SUDDETH to WILLIAM SUDDETH, 20# for 135 acres on Hardware Branch. Witnesses: Charles Blany, Abraham Venable Patent: Mary 10, 1756 PATIENCE, wife of JAMES SUDDETH”

From Albemarle County VA – Deed Book ‘2’ Page 159: “June 20, 1759 Jacob Eades to John Ramsey, clerk, 300 acres bought from WILLIAM SUDDARTH, both sides of south fork of Totier River.”


“Diocese of Southern Virginia”, Journal 1903, 49-50
AMHERST COUNTY was formed in 1761 from Albemarle County and
“certain islands” in the Fluvanna [James] River.
The Act dividing the Counties of Albemarle and Louisa and the Parish of St.
Anne was dated March 1761.
Amherst Parish in said Act is described as follows:
That from and after the first day of May next the said parish (St. Anne) shall be divided into two distinct parishes, in the following manner, that is to say, by Rockfish river to the mouth of Green creek, thence a straight line by the house of Thomas Bell to the Blue mountain, and that all that part of said parish that lies above the said river and line shall be one distinct parish, and shall be called and “known by the name of Amherst”: and that all other part of said parish that lies below the said river and line shall be one distinct parish and “retain the name of St. Anne”.

[Note: See additional information on the Amherst Parish that follows at * below.]


9 July 1761

Albemarle County, VA Deeds: Book #3, page 85:  Chas. Tate, Amhurst planter, to JAS. SUDDARTH 20 pds., 109 acres S. Hardware. Wit. Samuel Jordon & WM. SUDDARTH.

WILL OF WILLIAM SUDDARTH, 1761 I WILLIAM SUDDARTH SENR of the County and Parish of Amherst being in Perfect sence and memory do by these Presents make this my Last Will and Testament makeing void all other Wills by me before maid in primas I comit my Soul to the hands of Almighty God that gave it me and for what Estate it hath Pleased God to bestoe on me I give and Bequeath as followeth

Item I give to my Daughters Sarah Denny, Agness Willibey, Charity Tate, Elizabeth Ray one shilling Starling, also I give to my three Sons JAMES SUDDARTH, William Suddarth, and Larnes Suddarth Each of them one shilling Starling and the Rest and Residue of my hole Estate I give to my Youngest Daughter Mary Suddarth also I do appoint my Daughter Mary Suddarth whole Executor of this my Last Will and Testament December 25th 1761.
William (his + mark) Suddarth Larnes (his + mark) Suddarth Martha + Suddarth George


5 April 1762

Amherst County, VA, Will Book 1, p. 4

Father WILLIAM SUDDARTH SR’S Will names sons JAMES, William Jr. and Lawrence, daughters Sarah (Denny), Agnes Willibey, Charity Tate, Elizabeth Ray, and Mary Sudarth. Mary Sudarth named the administrator.

From William Suddarth of Stafford County & Albemarle County, Virginia, printed by Richard D. Hirtzel, 1999:

“The connections between WILLIAM SUDDARTH and John Denny, Samuel Denny and Benjamin Denny are of particular interest – especially to Denny researchers. The 1762 will of WILLIAM SUDDARTH indicates that his daughter Sarah ahad married a Denny. Also, a history of Samuel Denny, written by his great-grandson, Joel Denny, indicates that Samuel married a woman named Southard and that they had seventeen children.

“A Samuel Denny is found in Goochland County in 1737/38 in a court action with a man named John Johnston and a man named Isaac Hoel. A John Johnston traded at the Partridge Store, aas did several persons with the surname of Howell, although not Isaac. Samuel Denny is not found in the Partridge Store records. So along with John Denny and Benjamin Denny is aded a sighting of Samuel Denny in Goochland County in the decade of the 1730s.

“This suggests a relationship between John, Benjain and Samuel – perhaps brother, perhaps cousins, perhaps one was the parent of the others. It would be reasonable to assume that the three Denny men were at least related to one another, hence having common Denny ancestors a few generations back.”


*This discussion from the Diocese of Southern Virginia Journal follows the passage quoted for year 1761: 

{In 1761 the border between Albemarle and Amherst Counties would seem to be the Rockfish River, which I think is now the border between Nelson and Albemarle}

In October 1778 the parish of Amherst was divided by a line running from Fluvanna [James] River up Piney River to the mountains; the part on the lower side to be known as Amherst Parish and on the upper side, Lexington Parish.
That the parish of Amherst shall be divided into two distinct parishes, in the following manner, that is to say:
By a line to be run from Meggenson’s Warehouse, on the Fluvanna river, to Rose’s Mill on Piney river, thence up the fork thereof above Lucas Powell’s plantation, and hence up the north fork to the Blue Ridge, and all that part of said parish which lies on the lower side of the said line shall be one distinct parish and “retain the name of Amherst”, and all that part of said parish which lies on the upper side of the said line shall be one other distinct parish and be “know by the name of Lexington”.

{Two years later}
In October 1780, the dividing line between Amherst and Lexington parishes was relocated to make a more equitable division.
Be it therefore enacted, That instead of the dividing line mentioned in said Act, the said parishes shall be divided by the following lines, to-wit:

Beginning on the Fluvana [James] river at the mouth of Elk Island Creek, with said creek to Hilton’s mill, from thence a direct line to Tye river at the mouth of Camp Creek; thence up Tye river to mouth of Piney river, thence up Piney river to Rose’s mill; thence continued up Piney river to the fork thereof above Lucas Powell’s plantation and thence up the north fork to the Blue Ridge.
The collector of the parish of Lexington shall have the power to collect and distrain for any dues which shall remain unpaid by the inhabitants of that part of the said parish of Lexington hereby made a part of the said parish of Amherst.

The following recommendation from the committee on admission of new parishes was approved.

3. From Amherst County a petition to be divided from Lexington Parish, of which it now forms a part, and to be formed into a separate parish, taking the name of Amherst Parish with the following boundaries, to-wit:
Those boundaries known as belonging to Pedlar township, and all that part of Elton township that lies to the west of the Virginia Midland railroad; or in other words, the northern boundary of the Elon section of the parish will be the Lynchburg road from Ware’s Gap across to Cool Well; the eastern boundary the Virginia Midland railroad; the southern boundary the James river, and the western boundary the Tobacco Row mountains to Ware’s Gap.(his + mark) Taylor Theophilus Faver

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